Combine theories #discuss

Moose_hater wrote:If they weren't evil, they wouldn't torture and kill.

DarkPossum95 wrote:I agree with this quite a bit, especially on our server. Here in TC most of the Combeans are cool and half of the rebels gun down citizens or mug them on the street like random gang violence. I wouldn't necessarily say the Combine are good, but I do think that most of the rebels are sort of evil.

Cherry of the Dead wrote:I gotta say quite an interesting question, magnum.

If the Union was evil or not is a touchy subject given the vague lore universe of Half-Life 2, What the Gman's intentions are and if maybe humans are just too week to deal with such a society at a modern age since they were raised differently. The very idea of them being "Evil" with a label is most likely an opinion but there are some small factors that might make them considered an evil group.

The Universal Union has enslaved many worlds far before their time came to take earth. They work under the benifactors who do things for their own personal gain ofcourse. The labor of humans and the recources of earth prove to be quite profitable for the Union. It is known that the Union does make certain humans augmented and removes their individuality to make them simply labor slaves but this is at the human's will unless they misbehave then it would result in them becoming a stalker. Could it be that the Union is simply trying to enforce law in such a harsh way to intimidate humans to not do anything just for the better good, to preserve peace? Maybe in their home there were customs like that and that is how laws worked but to humans it isnt cultureally acceptable and we are not ready for a society like that.

Humans to some degree may be brain washed from the Union at a social level but it does give some peace to the world. A form of government that gives all equality and just enough to live, orgnization and so on where they do not profit or become greedy. Though there is a problem with the Union taking earth recources, it is their world and they promised to shelter humans with walls from the monsters that lure outside.

So yes and no.. Its all a perspective, the Union is like any government that has ever takin over. They kill for reason but they protect. The resistance doesnt accept the methods and are willing to fight. Both notable causes.

UnitBravo342 wrote: How much Breen's Private Reserve have you people been drinking?

UnitBravo342 wrote:

DarkPossum95 wrote:I agree with this quite a bit, especially on our server. Here in TC most of the Combeans are cool and half of the rebels gun down citizens or mug them on the street like random gang violence. I wouldn't necessarily say the Combine are good, but I do think that most of the rebels are sort of evil.

I think you've got the rebels confused with some other group of slums-dwellers.

Gremnkai wrote:Jaquez that's such a uninformed thing to say. We never meta like that. We almost ALWAYS kick out the people who come into the slums unless they can prove to us that they can't go back. Even then we don't trust them for a while until they EARN it.

Magnum wrote:still don't know what to think about the Combine. They were cruel, they were draconian, but I still think they might have had our best interests at heart.

I don't think Breen was lying out his teeth, I think he actually believe what he said. He was a true believer.

What if Freeman destroyed Humanity for a second time when he destroyed the Citadel? What if we were truly on the verge of immortality and ascendance to a greater species? What if the Combine wasn't evil?

Jmannon00b1 wrote:

Magnum wrote:still don't know what to think about the Combine. They were cruel, they were draconian, but I still think they might have had our best interests at heart.

I don't think Breen was lying out his teeth, I think he actually believe what he said. He was a true believer.

What if Freeman destroyed Humanity for a second time when he destroyed the Citadel? What if we were truly on the verge of immortality and ascendance to a greater species? What if the Combine wasn't evil?

Getting the Union out of Earth would leave the dead planet behind, Humanity would die out within two generations.

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UnitBravo342 wrote:You're implying people wouldn't just cultivate in what areas of greenery remain(see White Forest)and eat headcrabs and leeches for the rest of existence. Oh, did I mention patterns point to the Union planning on making humanity extinct by a combination of assimilation(via Overwatch or Stalkers)and reducing the population replacement rate to zero? Humanity is way more fucked with the Combine remaining in place. Humanity would be 100% wiped out(Overwatch are basically cyborg zombies and Stalkers are basically the same), and whatever the Earth has left by HL2 would be entirely gone. The entire planet's oceans drained to dry rock. The world's forests turned to deserts. Any resource the UU use would be strip mined. The Earth that would remain would resemble Mars, a dead desert world. There might be a bunch of Combine outposts scattered around populated with Overwatch, but that'd be it.

Meleepayne wrote:

UnitBravo342 wrote:You're implying people wouldn't just cultivate in what areas of greenery remain(see White Forest)and eat headcrabs and leeches for the rest of existence. Oh, did I mention patterns point to the Union planning on making humanity extinct by a combination of assimilation(via Overwatch or Stalkers)and reducing the population replacement rate to zero? Humanity is way more fucked with the Combine remaining in place. Humanity would be 100% wiped out(Overwatch are basically cyborg zombies and Stalkers are basically the same), and whatever the Earth has left by HL2 would be entirely gone. The entire planet's oceans drained to dry rock. The world's forests turned to deserts. Any resource the UU use would be strip mined. The Earth that would remain would resemble Mars, a dead desert world. There might be a bunch of Combine outposts scattered around populated with Overwatch, but that'd be it.

Why the hell are there humans still alive then? if the combines goal was just to fuck up humanity then why bother with keeping them under a rule? all they would need to do is say "LOL WE LIED TIME TO DIE MOTHERFUCKER" And laser/dark energy every single thing that moves thats not combine. Hell, they fucked up earths armies in 7 hours, why'd they even stop. I get that they would want to probably become stronger by taking earth's main species and getting more military power, but really, they have a assload of synths, mortar synths, walking crab synths with machine guns, walking super soldier synths, tri-pod synths that warp the fabric of space when they are chargin thar lazoooor and balls that reduce people to atoms. So really they have no real reason to even give a fuck about humanity. The only logical explanation for humanity not being dead by the events of hl2 is G-Man.
Probably named Gordon man, i bet 100$ that theres a gordon freeman brand crowbar in gman's suitcase.

[i just rambled the living fuck out of this post nothing to see here move along]

Meleepayne wrote:

UnitBravo342 wrote:You're implying people wouldn't just cultivate in what areas of greenery remain(see White Forest)and eat headcrabs and leeches for the rest of existence. Oh, did I mention patterns point to the Union planning on making humanity extinct by a combination of assimilation(via Overwatch or Stalkers)and reducing the population replacement rate to zero? Humanity is way more fucked with the Combine remaining in place. Humanity would be 100% wiped out(Overwatch are basically cyborg zombies and Stalkers are basically the same), and whatever the Earth has left by HL2 would be entirely gone. The entire planet's oceans drained to dry rock. The world's forests turned to deserts. Any resource the UU use would be strip mined. The Earth that would remain would resemble Mars, a dead desert world. There might be a bunch of Combine outposts scattered around populated with Overwatch, but that'd be it.

Why the hell are there humans still alive then? if the combines goal was just to fuck up humanity then why bother with keeping them under a rule? all they would need to do is say "LOL WE LIED TIME TO DIE MOTHERFUCKER" And laser/dark energy every single thing that moves thats not combine. Hell, they fucked up earths armies in 7 hours, why'd they even stop. I get that they would want to probably become stronger by taking earth's main species and getting more military power, but really, they have a assload of synths, mortar synths, walking crab synths with machine guns, walking super soldier synths, tri-pod synths that warp the fabric of space when they are chargin thar lazoooor and balls that reduce people to atoms. So really they have no real reason to even give a fuck about humanity. The only logical explanation for humanity not being dead by the events of hl2 is G-Man.
Probably named Gordon man, i bet 100$ that theres a gordon freeman brand crowbar in gman's suitcase.

[i just rambled the living fuck out of this post nothing to see here move along]

Do note that breen managed earths surrender

Meleepayne wrote:

UnitBravo342 wrote:You're implying people wouldn't just cultivate in what areas of greenery remain(see White Forest)and eat headcrabs and leeches for the rest of existence. Oh, did I mention patterns point to the Union planning on making humanity extinct by a combination of assimilation(via Overwatch or Stalkers)and reducing the population replacement rate to zero? Humanity is way more fucked with the Combine remaining in place. Humanity would be 100% wiped out(Overwatch are basically cyborg zombies and Stalkers are basically the same), and whatever the Earth has left by HL2 would be entirely gone. The entire planet's oceans drained to dry rock. The world's forests turned to deserts. Any resource the UU use would be strip mined. The Earth that would remain would resemble Mars, a dead desert world. There might be a bunch of Combine outposts scattered around populated with Overwatch, but that'd be it.

Why the hell are there humans still alive then? if the combines goal was just to fuck up humanity then why bother with keeping them under a rule? all they would need to do is say "LOL WE LIED TIME TO DIE MOTHERFUCKER" And laser/dark energy every single thing that moves thats not combine. Hell, they fucked up earths armies in 7 hours, why'd they even stop. I get that they would want to probably become stronger by taking earth's main species and getting more military power, but really, they have a assload of synths, mortar synths, walking crab synths with machine guns, walking super soldier synths, tri-pod synths that warp the fabric of space when they are chargin thar lazoooor and balls that reduce people to atoms. So really they have no real reason to even give a fuck about humanity. The only logical explanation for humanity not being dead by the events of hl2 is G-Man.
Probably named Gordon man, i bet 100$ that theres a gordon freeman brand crowbar in gman's suitcase.

[i just rambled the living fuck out of this post nothing to see here move along]

Silver wrote:As Unit said, the only reason the Combine keeps humans alive is labour. They want Earth's resources; humans are accustomed to the Earth. Who could drain it's resources better than humans themselves? Humans are the perfect workers. They also could, potentially, be turned into synths like for example happened to the strider. That's most likely not a main reason though, more like, a possible side effect.

Meleepayne wrote:

Silver wrote:As Unit said, the only reason the Combine keeps humans alive is labour. They want Earth's resources; humans are accustomed to the Earth. Who could drain it's resources better than humans themselves? Humans are the perfect workers. They also could, potentially, be turned into synths like for example happened to the strider. That's most likely not a main reason though, more like, a possible side effect.

There WAS a hl2 beta npc called the combine guard, it was a blind man in a big ass suit and he was pretty much a fuggin synth. Also combine supersoldier cyborg.