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HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  Archimedes on Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:20 pm

Creating this thread mainly for questions about HL2RP in Gmod 13.

My Questions (to Diablo or anyone who knows about it)
1. Is HL2RP legacy free because you purchased it for Gmod 11.
2. Which one will the server run (mainly related to if you end up having to buy legacy).
3. And any updates on release dates?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  DIABLO258 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:42 pm

Archimedes wrote:Creating this thread mainly for questions about HL2RP in Gmod 13.

My Questions (to Diablo or anyone who knows about it)
1. Is HL2RP legacy free because you purchased it for Gmod 11.
2. Which one will the server run (mainly related to if you end up having to buy legacy).
3. And any updates on release dates?

Thanks in advance.


1. Is HL2RP legacy free because you purchased it for Gmod 11.

Yes, after I purchased OpenAura HL2RP for Gmod 12, CW was pre-purchased. I believe CW and Legacy are the same thing, Legacy is just the name of the Game mode, Clock Work is the name of the engine its built on?

2. Which one will the server run (mainly related to if you end up having to buy legacy).

Well currently HL2RP Legacy is the only one close to being finished. So when its released, you can say goodbye to Sandbox. When everything else is out, TTT will be replaced by either severance or out lands. Probably severance.


3. And any updates on release dates?

So far there is no specific date, but the head developer of Cloud Sixteen has said many times that Legacy is nearly complete. I personally expect it out by either early December, or end of December.


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Re: HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  Mahunik on Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:15 pm

I found a post made about Clockwork and Hl2rp2 awhile back and I wish I could find it again but anyways I'll clear some of this up. Basically cloudsixteen is going to release ClockWork Legacy which is basically a port forward with few/minor changes done to hl2rp (The Openaura version). Legacy is free to people who owned openaura but didn't pay to upgrade to the newer one. Hl2rp2 is the new version that is currently in development and will be adding a whole bunch of features. Hl2rp2 is only available to the people who pre-purchased/bought it. One thing I also heard mentioned is Openaura characters possibly being transferred over to the new version.

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Re: HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  DIABLO258 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:53 pm

Even if it isn't free for me, i'm still buying it. So no worries.

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Re: HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  Guest on Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:13 am

Tic, Tock, On The Clock...

Been a while, hasn't it?

So, let's talk about Clockwork, the newest edit WHOLE NEW FRAMEWORK made by the oh so talented kurozael/kuropixel/kuromiku/Conna Cook/Conna Wiles. It's being made to replace openAura, that will break in the GMod 13 update.

Now, what exactly is different? Well, this time it's free. That's right, the framework itself is being released for free. When I first heard about it back when Kuro first announced it, I was actually pleasantly surprised. Maybe he had finally learned from his mistakes, and realized that frameworks should be open-source and free? After all, its slogan is "A framework for the people". Now, knowing Kuro, this was of course not the case.

As his first thread about Cockwork CLOCKWORK started going forwards, some... Unpleasant details were being revealed. It turned out that in order to get a copy of Clockwork, you had to register on a website and get a development key. Didn't sound so bad, right? I failed to see the point of it, and it seemed really shady, but I was ready to forgive it. Then it of course turned out that the schemas for Clockwork weren't free, you'd still have to buy those or code one from scratch yourself. When I asked if you were allowed to recode one of the purchasable schemas from scratch, the question kept being dodged until they finally said that it was okay, as long as it was called something completely different and didn't use any stolen code. Fair enough, right? Well, things started going downhill from there... Kuro accidentally said that SpencerSharkey wouldn't be able to use Clockwork once it was released (Spencer had leaked an alpha copy of Clockwork), and I asked how Kuro could decide that. If the gamemode was free and open-source, then how could someone like SpencerSharkey not be allowed to use it? That's when it turned out that all schemas made for Clockwork has to be approved by Kuro. Suddenly keeping the DRM in the framework, and using shady dev keys made sense. They were there to keep Kuro in control of the Clockwork users. This means that even if you spend months making a gamemode, Kuro can, for whatever reason, say: "Nope, not allowed to use it." Adding onto that, it has also turned out that if you want to host a server running Clockwork, the server had to be whitelisted and approved by Kuro. Suddenly the framework doesn't seem all that open-source anymore.

So, knowing all of this, surely the GMod RP community won't use Clockwork, right? Surely they will realize that Kuro is still the power hungry, money grabbing douchebag he has always been? Well, apparently not, since a lot of servers are planning on using it. People have become so accustomed to openAura that they are ready to ignore all the facts, and still use Clockwork despite the better alternatives.

So, is this it, then? Is this what the GMod RP community has come to? Will we only be seeing Clockwork servers from now on? Fear not, true believers, for the rumors around the mill say that some CHILL DUDES are porting over openAura to GMod 13 as an alternative to Clockwork. While I'm no fan of openAura, hopefully this should minimize the usage of Clockwork and stop Kuro's money making schemes. One can dream.

On top of that, we've still got Tiramisu. FNox is updating it for GMod 13, and converting it to use MySQL. A friend of mine is also working on his own RP framework project. And, who knows, maybe I will take up my old framework project for the sake of alternatives?

Until next time.

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Re: HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  Guest on Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:13 am

^
It wont be free, It will cost at least 50 bucks.

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Re: HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  DIABLO258 on Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:14 am

You posted that already in a different thread.
And yes I will get it without paying, because I already paid for it at a very discounted price a few months ago, along side with OA.

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Re: HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  Guest on Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:08 am

DIABLO258 wrote:You posted that already in a different thread.
And yes I will get it without paying, because I already paid for it at a very discounted price a few months ago, along side with OA.

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Re: HL2RP Legacy Questions

Post  Noobstrike on Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:47 pm

JoE wrote:
DIABLO258 wrote:You posted that already in a different thread.
And yes I will get it without paying, because I already paid for it at a very discounted price a few months ago, along side with OA.

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