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Post  DIABLO258 Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:12 am



Well, here we are. Bear with me here, I am staying home because I am sick. When I am sick my typing skill goes down to level -4. So, just keep that in mind.

Over the past week I have watched some of you bring TC back to life for a few short hours each day. Unfortunately we ended up getting struck by the same problem we tried to get rid of. People once again stopped playing. This is no ones fault but their own, remember that. For those of you that tried, you have my sincere gratitude. Showing dedication no one else could. I thank you for this.

Sadly, it was not enough to convince me that we can keep this going. I have made the decision to not pay for our next month. The server will be down sometime tomorrow. But the forums will remain for as long as the internet is up.

I had a lot of fun on HL2RP, but that time has passed. I'll see you all in what ever the "Next big thing" is, on Gmod.
Stay in contact too, you guys are the only friends I still talk too...

To conclude the long run of a server we had, here is a picture of yours truly in the Galapagos.

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Post  Guest Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:32 pm

Thank you so much, DIABLO. I'm really gonna miss this place, hombre. If you guys haven't already, be sure to pay some final respects where the letterboxes used to be.


Rest in peace, The Crew.
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Post  General Bravo Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:13 pm

Y'know, this feels so much like it did when SOTA went down that it's the strangest combo of nostalgia mixed with unhappiness. Well, these things happen. Hopefully the group stays together even if the server falls, but things generally don't go that way in my experience. With that said, try and stick together. This is one of the better communities I've had the chance to work and play with. It would be a shame to lose it.
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Post  Cergis Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:08 pm

Song is too you guys, listen to it while reading this.

Guys, Its been a good run, You guys are the BEST friends I've had on the internet. I hope you guys stay in touch with me, Down below I'll put the names of people who were my best friends on the internet.

DIABLO- Diablo, You will always be the best owner of any servers, You tried, and im glad. I really am. Have a good life.

HollerHavoc- Holler, You will always be the bestest Friend I will have on the internet. I hope I could help you with some Minecraft stuff in the future. Love you <no homo>

General Bravo- You are a great admin. You show bravery and Courage with the server over the years. I like that attitude you gave everyone. Be safe, and have a good one! And also, Take over the world.. Smile

chris10023- Chris, You are the best admin I've ever seen, I hope you continue your great teachings on another server, if you dont want too, I can respect that. Live on in peace.

DarkPossum- Best Operator. You gave me good times in the C45 time. You will be on my awesome list, Have a great time!

Darion- If you read this Darion, You will be the best person that gave my unit a great time. Good RP between my 90005 and you.. Rose. Smile

Noobstrike- Funniest guy on earth, Sounds like a russian, Good combo, You will be missed by me Noob, I loved your fun activities, I hope to play some games with you, once you defeat Bill gates.

Zaughi- You are very Loyal, I hope you find a server and do the same thing, Good Roleplayer, I hope you have a good one Smile

SlashRaider- You've been an awesome Operator over the few months, I hope you will be able to spread around. Smile

Atlas- You will be remembered by me your great RP, Will be amazing to see again. Good job Smile

Joe- You were personally my favorite user. GREAT rp, and a good person to talk to, you may have left, but you will be remembered by me Smile

CoreStealer- You are another Loyal member, I wish you to have a great year, Good job. Smile

Anyways guys, I love ALL OF YOU For participating. Guys, I hope to see you on CSS, Garry's mod, TF2, Synergy, And many more, Goodbye guys. <3


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Post  Wowdah Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:11 pm

I really can't thank everyone here enough,
I had a fantastic time, I love all of you so much.
This server was the perfect HL2RP server, but only died due to lack of players, and it's sad to see it go in such a way.
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Post  Guest Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Ye all were a fine Crew. I do hope that we well-be-meetin' once more in yonder Internet.
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Post  [Redacted] Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:19 pm

Play this for maximum effect.


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Well, if this is truly it for the greatest server devotion and experience I ever could have asked for, I will still remain on these forums because everybody in this community is my friend (at least most of them). Trying not to cry as I type this and think back on all the amazing fun I've had in this server, honestly the greatest fucking time I'll ever have in a community in my life, nothing, I am not even exaggerating, will be as grabbing as TC's lore, people, legacy, story-line etc. You all have given me something I'll never forget probably in my life. When I grow old, I'll tell my children or people I meet that I was once apart of this community with all of you. To think I was an inch away from not even becoming apart of it. Lets see, it all started back at the end of December 2012, me and Ryan (Callchaos) just wanted to try out some RP gmod servers and happened to find it. Instantly, I knew that this server was different from the others. To think back to that moment is pretty sad to say we're finally at the moment I have pondered on slow days in school. The day we are putting all of the fun away as we grow up. Every moment, every good, bad, scary, exciting, fun, OOC, IC, all of it, will be in my mind forever. As I sit here and think to myself about it, there may be politically "better" servers out there, but none of them will have you guys all there, like before when you were all there just 4-5 months back having a blast. Now I never joined in SOTA or DA but I can tell you one thing, I wish I would have joined back then. Gmod wasn't even really a common game for me, it was just some game to mess around in, maybe get involved with the average server here and there but nothing, will never be as powerful as this community. All of you here is what makes it. I don't blame any of you for leaving, fighting, breaking the community up, but I will say this, the ones who could have helped, should have. This server has lived for a long ass time. It made me reach almost 2000 hours on GMOD. My total playtime on the server was almost 2 fucking months! I thank all of you for your cooperation. And apologize for the trouble I may have caused through argument, but am glad I was there for some of you and thank you for having me. I was glad and proud to hold the server up while Diablo was on is trip. I will always be glad to have been an SA for the greatest RP community of all time.

TRIBUTES (NOT IN ORDER OR ANYTHING)

DIABLO: Thank you for hosting this amazing server, I wish you luck on whatever else you do after this but most importantly, thank you for trusting me as an admin.

Cerg: Man, a lot of people got in fights with you, but to tell you the truth, you are just young, and I was like you at one time. I will definitely get you into the aether lets plays and shit, I'll game with you too if you want. You are a good cyber friend mang.

General Bravo: At first, we were not really in touch, shadowing away from each other, even got in a few disagreements and one fight over the vort Shield, but I began to realize that you are actually pretty fucking awesome. Great admin, hilarious and probably one of the only people who know how to YTP I will meet over the internet for a bit. Get the joj done. We gotta work on SWRP and shit some more negus. Good role model and most importantly good leader. /me salutes.

Noobstrike: Second admin I met, probably the most fucking hilarious person I've met. Just amazing in all kinds of ways negus. I was afraid of you at first I remember, but yeah had all kinds of fun times with you captain bill gates hater. The russian scottish critikal combination. Made the coolest stories and shit man, I look up to you man.

Mahunik: First admin I ever met on TC, probably the most deep rp I've had with. Don't know if anybody knew, but Jen and Erica had a lesbian connection. Really detailed and deep rp between them (NOT ERP YOU PERVS). Erica is like my favourite rp character. I'll keep in touch with you man.

Slashraider: The most in touch I'd say person I have with on TC, Skyped with you a lot over the summer and such, played a lot of fun horror maps with you and ryan and shit, fun as hell. Definitely keeping in touch with you. I feel if I lived near you we'd most likely be friends.

Darkpossum: The negus that joined in C45, I remember all the fun rp we had there with our chars. Sort of the cracking point of TC sadly. Good guy you are.

Gremnkai: Quite mature for your age I have to admit. Had some swaggy ass times with you man. Can understand why you left though, losing a character and such can be a lot to some people which is fine. I was the final straw mixed with other things...

Masey: Skyped with you a bit too, for like an entire day once lol. Had the most detailed ass /me's and was very trust worthy. Dude just all around cool guy, but got into one argument type thing which I hope we can put behind us. Happy to have volunteered you as a respected user Smile

Zaughi: Man, You had such a cool and unique char development, Eli was another one of my favourites in rp chars. You joined in C45 I'm pretty sure, but I didn't really know you much until like C8.

Chris: BARREL ATTACKER OF HOLLER. Lol I didn't really talk much to you to tell you the truth, but I did like how you rp'd. Good role model and good Admin, stayed serious a lot. Can't forget Chris.

Wowdah: Some of the stuff you said pissed me off sometimes, but not really in a bad way or anything, just like in a funny weird holler way lol. Good rper. Good deude, good negus, good fooken show mate.

Inept: Good deude as well, liked your deep char development, even though they didn't usually make it very long D: I'll continue to update you on my music production and thank you for your support cause it motivates me mang :)Call Pandora Jenny for me lol. Make sure you say "From Holler" Keep skypin with me nyeeguh.

Who else is there... *searches members*

Jaquez: Won't lie, did piss me off ALOT in the beginning, just some of the stuff you did was really unnecessary but in the end, I can call you a good guy man, you aren't all that bad. Keep workin on dat SW wit us.

Joe:Man, only guy on TC who truly has good taste in dubstep, had some swaggy as times with you and Ryan in C45. Had the interesting deep chars that everybody liked. Good at developing stories and legacy's and linking all your chars. All around awesome ass deude.


SilverDisc: Fucking amazing coder, amazing story developer for chars, I loved Stacey's story a lot. I hope Maelstrom goes far, and I most importantly wish you luck in you career man! Good guy. I'll check your stream out often.

Darion: Amazing times with you man, I'm sorry I forgot you man, really sorry, glad to have been there for you when you were having tuff times. I'll be here to play dee gaems with u. Anyways yeah. Suz.

Atlas: New to me and to TC, but can honestly say, if you joined earlier, probably would have made better friends cause you just have that good moral standard.
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If I missed anybody else important I'll add em in but I pledge my loyalty to this community, I thank all of you for giving me this fucking amazing experience.


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Post  Mahunik Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:31 pm

I must say, it's been a long time. Felt shorter then it really did but each time I came on this server I had fun. Ive seen people come, people go, and the dedicated stay. There were times that I would just need a break but I always saw myself coming back for more. It was also awesome being able to help pick out new admins, and new rules to add to this community. Even when I wasn't everyone's favorite I still felt like I fit in with the other staff and players. Needless to say, I had a great year here and I wish we could've lasted longer, but everything unfortunately has a end..

I would like to thank Diablo for giving me a chance as a Super admin here. Also I would like to thank all the staff for working together and managing this server well. I think we should all stay together as a community and meet up time to time, even if it's not on garrysmod.


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Post  Corestealer Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:47 pm

All I have to say is Who acres if the ever is down?
This doesn't mean we can't be a community that just play games together, I am disappointed too that the server is down, It's just that it he server isn't the community, the players are. As long as the players are active TC will be an active community.
We can play games together, Skype and such.
All I am saying is that just because the server is. Removed doesn't mean the community has to die.

Just please stay with TC I am not saying goodbye to you guys, I am welcoming a new beginning....
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Post  Slashraider Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:31 pm

I don't have much time to write out a long goodbye to everyone because these past weeks have been really busy and I have an insane work load. But I don't feel as there is a need for a goodbye because I think we will all keep playing with each other in other games / game-modes and we will ALWAYS be apart of a community. And I look forward
to play games with all of you and to keep in touch!
If you ever want to play with me, message me on steam and I would love to!
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Post  General Bravo Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:39 pm


Just picture in your mind's eye some slow-mo clips of all the everything you've done while RPing on this server and you'll go on a massive feels trip.

I don't see a need to say goodbye to anyone. You'll still be seeing me regardless of what happens to the server or the community.
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Post  Silver Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:39 pm

I can't believe this is actually happening.

Thanks.. To all of you guys. TC has been one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had and I absolutely loved it. I have so many good memories to TC.. And I wish we could just go back in time and go on.

So.. Thanks guys. You all made TC amazing. You are what made the server great. And that's exactly why the server is dying now.. Because people have left. Because we miss those certain people. Well.. I'll hope we'll all still chat up on Steam every often. I've just started college and I'm incredibly busy, but I'll never forget TC.

I also want to have said something. TC has always been my favorite RP server ever. Maelstrom was never created to take TC's place. It was to exist alongside TC, with different people and different RP experiences. And it did. We never "stole TC's members". So I hope nobody will blame me. I love TC, and I always will. I wish it was still around.

In the future.. Who knows. Let's make sure this is not the end. There's so many more stories to be told. Maybe we just need a break.

Thanks, all of you.
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Post  JoeOutlaw95 Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:14 pm

Well... god damnit. In those final few hours of TC I had actually just started wanting to get back into HL2RP but I guess I blew it with that one... but uhh, I might as well make a tribute list... its going to be kind of short.

Joe's Tribute List, Hell yea:

DIABLO258: Well I don't have much to say about you... and you know why, haha. I talk to you just about everyday nearly... except for today... because well you we're sick and stuff and not at school but oh well. Talk to you tomorrow when your feeling better. Although I will add this: You we're definitely a good owner, and thanks for understanding when I demoted myself... I guess.

Archimedes: Well... I don't really know you anymore, nor did I really know you in the past... so this may be short. I liked the work you did with the server and all, helping the coding and stuff, I also wish you luck with college or wherever it is that you are now. See you.

General Bravo: Well, I can't say we really liked each other, or it never seemed like we did, just kind of knew each other or atleast acknowledged it. But no worries, I always thought you we're an outstanding guy... a soon-to-be Conqueror of worlds. Maybe not earth... but someday... just maybe. Good luck.

Noobstrike: Hmm... I can't really say we we're good friends until the final days of TC when everyone started to play together for a short while. I want to say that I am sorry for all the bullshit I had caused for you and the rest of the server and my stepping down speech which wasn't your fault by the way... just needed to get away from the drama before I punched a hole in my screen, but overall, I thought you we're a decent guy, we talked here and there about life and what it would be like in the future on the server and well... it never made it that far, guess that is what you call fate, and or life. Anyways, good luck to you.

HollerHavoc: Aha! One of my favorite dudes on the server... although we rarely talked besides dubstep... and how did you know I made deep characters? I thought that was Silverdisc? :PAnyways... we definitely should play some games in the future, if not... oh well. Life is life, we can always talk about Dubstep, because we both have our views of it. Talk to you soon dude.

Mahunik: This kid... man you we're one of my favorite admins back in SoTA but we became co-workers I guess you could say, and we became really good friends, and still are, I hope it stays this way too. We should play more CS:GO in the future or Arma III when I get the chance to play it, or play on Justin's server... or I could just sit in the chat and listen to you scream bloody murder when playing Outlast. Talk to you soon.

Chris10023: Honestly one of my favorite people on the server, and still are. I remember when you used to look up to me for answers in times of dealing with the biggest minges on the planet, I hope that your skills as an admin will remain with you as you travel onto a different server... or well, maybe you won't move on, I won't stop you but hey you never know. I also hear that you live in Minnesota... so maybe one day we'll say hello at the grocery store and we won't even know it! Ha! Heh... anyways, talk to you sometime.

DarkPossum: Well well well... who do we have here? A possum that is dark of course. Well, I can't really say much about you Dark but all I can say is you we're a good operator when I was still in the ranks and I helped you with your math homework for unknown reasons... I don't even know how I even got to doing that with you... anyways, talk to you sometime. By the way... I rarely talk to you anymore... don't be afraid to talk to me you wang.

Slashraider: Oh god... not this kid again! Lol, just kidding. Anyways I talk to you a lot so I don't really have to say good bye besides saying you we're one of the better admins I have seen although you we'rent on the staff team when I was... or we're you? Anyways, talk to you soon man.

Masey: Great... the rage-machine 3000. Ha! Just kidding once more, I don't have much to say about this kid besides you being one of my favorites on the server although you may have criticized it a lot... but hell, I don't really care, your you and I am me, and I think we're good friends, although we haven't talk as of late but oh well. Talk to you soon.

Gremnkai: Can't say much about you besides you we're one of my favorite people (Yes I know I have a lot, can't blame me for having favorites.) I loved it when we played PlanetSide 2 with everyone and you and Cergis would be screaming along with Moose... especially when we we're in those transport trucks... god darn those we're some good times... but hopefully in the future you'll spark an interest in some game and invite me. Good luck.

Cergis: Cergis! My god man... it always seemed like I was your idol or something, you always followed me. (Not saying this as a bad thing.) We we're pretty good friends. Especially in PlanetSide 2, we stuck together in those firefights with DIABLO and Moose and Grem... Damnit, why can't we all join up again and play that game. Anyways, I will talk to you soon at some point, bound to talk to you anyways.

Jaquecz: Okay... what to say here... Look. I know we hadn't been real great friends during the Era when I was a Super Admin but I will admit, you had some damn good philosophies whenever you ranted at me as I was playing on the server about certain things. I.E: Realisticness and the seriousness. Stay in touch.

Super America: Man... I don't know why your steam name says your depressed but... guess I have no place to ask why. But all I know is this, stay safe, don't kill yourself because I have had to talk to a couple of people out of doing that... you know who you people are... Sad Stay in touch, although I talked to you a couple days ago... just keep on sending me messages and I will trying and return a message.

Darion: I nearly forgot about you... but I didn't. I thought you to be one of the greatest roleplayers I had met during my time on the server until everyone started spamming the area with /it's of Stinger pollinating your flower... which I find rather fucked up. Anyways, your characters we're deep and your stories we're immaculate, in other words... outstanding. Very well done. Although I roleplayed with you very few times but I have heard things. A lot of things actually. But all-in-all, 10/10 one of the best roleplayers I have seen out there. Stay safe.

Corestealer: Oh... I forgot about you. Sorry. But someone reminded me... and I... sadly to say, hardly roleplayed with you. So that means I barely know you... although we did play on my Synergy server that one time, and yea I too agree that its hard to let go of the server but hey, the community will stick around. Atleast I hope so... talk to me on steam would you? Good luck.

Silverdisc: Well. What to put here as well. I talked to you damn near everyday but I will add this: You we're one of the FINEST! Yes... FINEST! Roleplayers I have ever met... not as good as the 3 sentence /me's like Masey has but god damn... your characters story's we're deep! Loved your roleplay. Talk to you tomorrow or something.

And last but not least... a message to everyone.

Honestly... I am terribly sorry for the servers stability although its dead now as I type this... but I feel as if I was the cause for the server's downfall. I know some of you may think I am just putting the internal locus of control on myself... but I am really not. But I seriously think it was because of me, after I quit being an admin the server just... started to dwindle and slowly fall to an icy platform... which in other words is a burst of population keeping the server intact... then it did it again. And now... this. But all-in-all... I want to thank everyone that thought of my roleplay as deep and well-put together and also as a Super Admin, although I know some of you out there hated my admining skills, I will admit I wasn't good at it. But... thanks, again. I will never ever forget this community and the community's before this one, thanks to DIABLO258 for bringing me a long in his adventure in this chain of servers and our roleplay together... although there was barely any of that because we like to do our own things. Good luck to you all and have a decent life... message me on steam damnit! I am not a scary person!


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Post  Chris10023 Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:45 pm





Guess it's my turn.

I'm going to miss this server so much, it took my Gmod hours from 10 to almost 1000 hours give or take a few. Back when I joined the DA server after getting annoyed at another servers character creation screen, I joined the Dead Anarchy one and created Steve Johnson, within the first day me and a few users managed to get into D6 after the CCA unit logged off, that unit was Diablo, then just a 04; there was 4 of us civis and their were two rebels, one being Jared Smeester (I believe that was his name) and some female. So yeah first day role playing and I lolran into the slums, on a character that would later be developed into a loyalist, weird huh.

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Diablo: You are such a cool person for hosting this community after SoTa fell. I still remember you being that 04 unit that i told about my time in the slums.

Noobstrike: This is going to be hard but other then your tendency to screw around, you are a funny person, and an excellent Role Player. You always had some great idea, or event. It sucks your pc broke.

Bravo: While we have disagreed on stuff in the past you had some good characters as well.

Holler:I had a lot of fun dropping barrels on you in the last week lol. You were such a great Roleplayer, Jenny turned out to be such a developed character, it was like yesterday that Jim trained you when you joined Lambda, and well being the only one of the 3 who lived, one died on day one the other lasted a bit, I believe his name was Lanix. You are also a very good admin.

Mahunik:again great RPer, I remember meeting you in the slums of City 18 with your character Alexis Wittman. Great admin as well.

DarkPossem:I remember recommending you to be an Operator. You are such a good RPer, Conlon being a great character. Keep up the great work.

SlashRaider: Great RPer, great OP, I wish you and Possem got promo'd to Admins, you have great characters, and are great at being OP.

Silver:You are a great coder, keep it up. you are also a great RPer, loved Rping with you, mainly in Lambda with Stacy.

Joe:God damn man, I loved RPing with you, such a great RPer, you were also a very good SA. I loved how your characters kept bumping into mine, and having their stories mix, Joe Newton, Wilhelm, Markus Paine, Core DvL/Jackson Paine, were all great characters.

Masey:you were also a great Rper and a good OP, I really wish you didn't leave.

Cergis: You are a great RPer, you have some really good Characters.

Zaugi: Great RPer, some great characters.

Corestealer: Again Great RPer, great characters.

If I missed anyone I apologize.

My speech I guess.

While this is the end of the server, this is not the end of this community. We are still here, living on, we are still in each others friends lists, we can always go onto a sandbox server and chill there or something. And we will push through to the end and do the impossible, like we always have, and will always will. Remember, this isn't goodbye, we're always here.
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Post  Jman Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:54 pm

Wow, you're feeling emotions.

What are you, gay?

Most of you are alright, even though I blew myself the fuck up on a bridge and can honestly say I don't care much for the furry/anything else ratio here.

Eh, Diablo's my rock, Noob is him, Joe is cool, Mahunik I named my Makuhita after, I don't even know Holler, Silver seems like he's going to hunt me down for some reason, probably his profile pic, Chris, at first I thought you were the biggest fucking moron, but you're alright, Bravo is cool too, Nick Bradford is best girl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIATS8b0MWA

1: Listen
2: Imagine Jared in his tactical rebel armor saving Sixx from detainment or something fuck nigga I don't care
3: ???
4: Feel

Also, to Noobstrike.

You're probably the coolest guy I've ever met, along with Cherry and Diablo, of course.

I remember back when you were that freaky error sign who I sat with after killing two units with a pistol

Then I died.

Got Jared.

kicked ass.

I helped you kick ass.

We kicked ass.

Then I got my ass kicked.

And life was never the same.

Fact of the matter is, if nobody is going to try and drag this storyline on, then I guess this is it.

oh yea and hi everybody who I don't know I'm that one smelly guy who got perma-banned once


That's all you need to know


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Post  DIABLO258 Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:02 pm

Jman, your signature pic made me think.

"If atheists is 9/11
evolution, why stop real couldn't?"

I translated it to this.

"If evolution is real,
why couldn't atheists stop 9/11?"

I spent 5 minutes figuring that out, and I still haven't figured it out.
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Post  General Bravo Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:21 am

Best not to think too hard about things at times.
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