Opinions on Rogues (Holler's Old Omega Essay)

Ok so... most have you have seen the whole "Unknown" thing for Jen on my signature and I am ready to explain this. Some of you know that Jenny has went to the outlands for reasons I cannot state for fear of meta, the point is she went to the outlands with a goal... while surviving in the outlands with limited resources she came across a rogue... His name was Omega and this is his story. P.S: This is what me and Darion have been doing for the last while.

OMEGλ – The life of a Rogue…

The Beginning…

Xavier Phoenix was just an only child with a loving family who took care of him and raised him well. He lived in Texas on in a nice house and had a very subtle Texan accent. His parents were Robert and Megan Phoenix. He went to a public school, made a lot of friends, and had a good education. Both of his parents were wealthy and he was very lucky to have parents like them to benefit him so greatly and help him with his career and school and education so that he could end up like them.
As Xavier progressed in his career he moved on to high-school. At first he was very un sure of what he was going to do in his life and this began to scare him. Most of his friends all had a goal, that one thing that they loved and saw themselves doing in the future. Xavier needed time to think about it. Xavier took many computer and business courses during his 4 years in high-school maintaining very high averages that exceeded expectations. (90%)
When he graduated from high school he went to College. He then raised his education and got out of college during the age of 22. One flaw with Xavier is that he didn’t want to attend the long years of university but, College would soon enough turn out to be all he needs.
Xavier was always looking to become something to do with the business strand. He attended the computer pathway at Hearthreath College of Technology and received a diploma for his hard, successful work. He later on became head computer engineer/support programmer of a computer company working in the main building.

7 Unknown Hours…

During the events of the seven hour war, it was just another day at work, he was working on a project to fix a computer for a conference that would take place the following day, and all was well, until the shaking... The building shook violently and he had no idea what was going on. He was on the 3rd floor so not dangerously high but still, he quickly dropped what he was doing and stumbled around to the nearest window he could find. His eyes widened. He couldn’t believe what he was seeing. The skies lit up bright green! Things, figures, UFO's coming from...portals... but how could this possibly be happening? He stared down at the streets which were now filled with chaos. Weird beings, aliens, teleporting it seemed wreaking havoc. He took a few steps back from the window. The building now shook even more violently from before. He turned around and only to see an object coming at his face. That was the last thing he remembered. He was knocked out for mostly the whole 7 hour war. This made Xavier’s near future a very confusing time for him.

A Fresh Start…

The overwatch eventually found his body but detected him alive and took him. Sometime later he woke up in a medical bay. He could see strange machines and such and then he blacked out once more. He then awoke on a train that was heading for City 45. He didn't know what he was in for, nor what was going on. He didn’t know where his family was, he hadn't seen them ever since. He stood up in the train as it came to a stop. The doors opened. Confused, looking around at the unknown scenery he had no idea where he was. He lived in City 45 for several months confused. He wondered around in City 45 curiously for a while. He came upon the CAH where he saw a man cleaning a dirty old window. Being as nice as he is, Xavier offered his help to the man. The man turned around and smiled, he had a peculiar armband on and Xavier asked him about it as he began to help him clean. The man introduced himself to Xavier telling him his name was Jamie Mitchel. Xavier and him finished the window and Xavier followed the man around, he asked him about all that had happened and told him about how he was confused because he blacked out. Jamie told him of the CCA and Combine and talked about the war but he said that the CCA are here to protect them and that they will keep them safe. Xavier was interested in the CCA. Jamie told him that the best thing to do is to become loyal to the CCA and help them make the City a better place. Xavier liked this idea. He took to loyalist work for it was the only thing he saw logical, with the help of his new friend Jamie which he spent much time with as a loyalist, he eventually found his bearings and ground and when he found out his family may be dead, he only dwelled on it for so long but accepted it. He realized his parents would have wanted him to push forward in his life and do the right thing. He learned of the seven hour war but again, accepted what was put in his path and decided he needed to do what was right. He took a liking in the CCA, and when he could, applied… he was then accepted into the CCA and began the next big step.

Life as a CCA…

One day, Xavier was confronted by the CCA and taken into the Nexus of city 45. He was given a suit and data pad along with a radio. When Xavier suited up he was intrigued by the interior of the nexus and took a long look around while being prepped for training. Shortly after he was trained by the CORE-DVL and he received his CORE-06 armband. This was exciting for him. He immediately set out of the nexus and was starting his next big step in his journey. As Xavier moved up in the ranks of the CCA, he learned more and more about them, how they tortured citizens and such, the evil things like that. Xavier was disturbed by this and didn’t really agree with it, making him take way longer to move up in rank. To receive proper quota, he often only beat/tortured/interrogated really bad citizens such as criminals. At first Xavier had only seen the CCA as a police type force, but, now he was starting to realize each rank how evil they can be. Since Xavier had a structured way of ranking his quota without being inhumane like the average CCA would, it took him 1-2 years to get all the way to CORE-03. This was an achievement Xavier, now known as CORE-03.11245 was truly proud off.

A Troubled Unit Indeed…

Xavier was known well enough throughout the CCA now and shadowed his feelings from them very well. He did his job but still did not like the way CCA did things. He learned about how they even enslave Alien species making his feelings towards them worse. The next thing that happens is probably the worst feeling that Xavier would face as a CCA. While patrolling one day in the City, Xavier stumbled upon something he wishes he hadn’t. The CORE-DvL watched as Xavier entered into the CAH and waited for him to come out. As Xavier went to check things out in the CAH he heard noises coming from upstairs. Shuffling, grunting and then a large smacking noise echoed through the halls. Xavier rushed to the top of the CAH towards the noise with haste and eventually stood at the top floor, the door was swung open. He rushed over as fast as he possibly could. As he got to the door, he looked in, blood drops were over the counter and smeared on a fridge and the loyalist, Jamie Mitchel, Xavier’s close friend was on the ground in pain, he had an SMG in hand. This SMG was placed by someone. Xavier ran over to Jamie quickly and helped him up. Xavier said “J-Jamie! What happened, what is this!? Tell me you are ok!”.  Jamie looked Xavier in the Visor with cold eyes. He said “Xavier? Th-that you?”. Xavier nodded quickly. Meanwhile The CORE-DvL still outside squinted at the CAH entrance noticing that Xavier had not returned. Jamie struggled to say “Xavier, you know I wouldn’t do a thing like this, I was j-jumped *cough* *cough*, L-listen, the man, he took me by surprise, got me down, and pl-planted the contraband…” Xavier believed in his friend, he knew that he would never do such a thing being the loyalist he was. Xavier said in return “Jamie, I know you would never ever even think of doing something like this, we need to get who did this, he will be detained, we also need to get you help.” The CORE-DvL decided to investigate the CAH and figure out what was going on. As he entered the CAH he could hear the beeps of Xavier’s vo-coder from upstairs. The DvL rushed up to Xavier’s location. Xavier had stood up. The DvL looked around seeing the situation and assumed that the loyalist was actually anti-citizen and that Xavier had beaten him for it. “Good work 03, I am impressed.” Xavier whipped around at the voice of the DvL. The DvL then said “Now tie him up!” Before Xavier could speak. Xavier hesitated, feeling nervous. “DvL! B-b-bu- thi-“ He stuttered. The DvL looked at him and said “This isn’t up for discussion 03, Tie this Anti-Citizen up now!” Xavier was scared out of his mind as he looked down at his friends terrified face. He nodded nervously wanting to say something but he dare not question the DvL, he tied up he friend before him with shaking hands. The DvL waited. His friend and him were both silent. “Alright good, now knock him out and take him into the nexus, he will be interrogated by me personally.” Xavier wanted to resist this. Xavier paused for a moment. “Knock him out 03! Now!” Xavier nodded nervously and took out his stunstick turning it on with shaking hands. He really didn’t want to beat his friend but he obeyed the DvL without question. With each hit to his friends head, he felt sadder and sadder. “Good, now take him to the interrogation chamber, I will be there shortly.” Xavier nodded feeling hurt inside and then carried his friend to the interrogation chamber. He set his friend down on the chair and tapped his face trying to wake Jamie up. When Jamie awoke, he looked at him with sad eyes. Jamie was bleeding from the nose and head along with the mouth. Xavier whispered “Jamie, I I- I am sorry, I won’t let them do anything to you, you will get out of here I pro-“ The DvL then came into the room. “Thanks 03, I will take it from here.” Xavier waited anxiously outside of the interrogation room pacing around breathing heavily. He was very nervous for his friend not knowing what to think. At last the DvL came out of the room, his friend now had burn marks on his arm and looked at him with sad eyes, the interrogation chamber had sound proof glass and Xavier dare not watch. 03 looked wide eyed under his mask at his friend. The DvL looked at Xavier and said, “03, come with me now, it is time for you to advance your quota.” 03 jaw dropped in his mask, he felt so scared, so nervous, so mad, he knew what he was going to have to do. He nodded reluctantly to the DvL, the DvL then took him into the amputation room along with his friend Jamie. “Any final requests anti-citizen?” the DvL said to Jamie. Jamie was silent, shocked and tears filled his eyes as he shook his head. “Alright 03, its time for you to amputate him.” Xavier felt like he was dying inside he teared up under his mask. “DvL, thi-this man, he couldn’t hav-“. He tried to get some sense into the DvL but failed. “03! Amputate him! NOW!” the DvL interrupted. Xavier nodded shaking. He took out his pistol slowly and cocked the gauge back letting go and then aiming with to shaking hands. “Good-go-goodbye.” Jamie muttered. Xavier pulled the trigger. At that moment part of Xavier died. He felt inhumane, he had killed his friend. He was forced by the CCA, Tears filled inside his mask and he looked at the DvL. “Good work, now, prepare for a sweep, anti-civil threat has been detected in this community, the citizen has told me this much.” Said the DvL and then he left the room. Xavier stood in the room, he felt broken, he dropped his pistol and fell to his knees and cried softly. He had mixed emotions towards the CCA and Jamie and then he filled with rage, he clenched he pistol tightly and got ready for the sweep. Xavier was torn, filled with rage and sadness, he decided he hated the DvL and more importantly realized that the CCA were nothing but heartless dogs, he hated them. During the sweep, in his rage, Xavier split off from his squad, not knowing what to do, he took to the outlands, never to be seen by the CCA again.

Omega…

Xavier traveled for about 5 hours in the same direction and he eventually came across a small factory. He was tired, sad and hungry. Intrigued by the way it looked; he decided to approach this bleak, unknown factory. He went towards the door, approached it with caution, shotgun at the ready. He opens the door and immediately he is confronted by a single rebel. This rebel’s name is Sam Carson. Sam Carson was at first intrusting and cautious of Xavier but Xavier did not want trouble from him. Xavier told Sam Carson his entire story, how he was fed up with the CCA and how he was still human, he really didn’t like the way they did things and Sam Carson agreed to let him into the ranks of the Lambda. Sam Carson was the leader of the small lambda group at this abandoned factory. The lambda group consisted of Sam Carson, the militia leader, Wingman Hayden Firse, Officer Jason Magson, and Medical Specialist Jorge Sanferido. At first, the rebels did not trust Xavier but as he stayed with them, they began to gain his trust. Xavier was given the name Omega, another of the Greek alphabet. Xavier especially gained a strong trust with Sam Carson he told him of his story and Sam was touched, he told Xavier that he can stay with the lambda as long as he wants, and then Xavier was eventually made into the Lead Officer. He stayed with them for a course of over 4 months. Sam Carson was from City 11 which was obviously run down, he lead his team and survived the outlands until he came in contact with a lambda trading group that he set up a trade route with. At one point Xavier had told Sam that City 45 was about 6 hours away and that they should try and get there. Sam liked this idea but he needed to inform his trade group of where he would be traveling and needed to plan the journey carefully with the right amount of supplies. He planned the trip well, had a good shipment of travel supplies ordered and all was well, at least that is what they thought. The combine had sent a scout gunship to search for stragglers in the outlands, from city 45 and they were spotted by it. They tried taking it down but to their misfortune it got away. They knew they were in trouble but they couldn’t run, not in a group. Sam Carson told Omega to take his the group of 3 and lead them far away from there, he would stay behind. Omega at first refused and wanted to stay or somehow get Sam Carson alive. Sam Carson refused and then convinced Omega that it needed to be done. Omega was sad to have to do this, abandon his leader like this but he knew it was for the good of the team. He gathered all the supplies he could and set off with his team. Sam Carson remained behind to distract the combine. Now in the outlands, lost not knowing what to do or where to go, Omega, Hayden, Jason and Jorge travel by faith, they hope to find someone to help them or somewhere where they can seek refuge.

The Road to Hope…

Omega, Hayden, Jason, and Jorge were all lost, on their own and leaderless off to fend for themselves in the harsh places of the outlands. Omega ironically became somewhat of the alpha, the leader. The other rebels looked to him and he led them along and kept the team of four strong. They had lost their sense of direction, most of their supplies and most importantly, Sam Carson. They traveled by day, and laid low by night. They were forced to scavenge anything and everything they could. At one point they found a small abandoned water plant which gave them enough fresh water to last for days. They soon learned that they were not the only ones at this water plant. Type B necrotics were always something of a myth to Omega and the 3 others, hearing rumours about an entire city being lost to them… city 11. The Type B zombies will never appear a myth in their minds again for they have been face to face with a pack of them; they hung their victims by strands of flesh and spoke in the most evil voices chanting that they would die. The four stood together and fended them off and once again got on the move far away from that den of horror. As they continued shaken by the odd paranormal beings still in their minds, they were being followed, whispers of the dead could be heard in the distance at night, howling and other moaning sounds as well. After traveling and surviving for about a month, Omega and the three came across an abandoned house in a sandy, dead, misty forest. When they went to seek shelter, they found that the door was strangely blocked. They looked around at eachother shrugging and then Omega gave the order to search around the house. They found that all the windows were boarded from the inside. Could it have been that someone was there? An actual living soul? “Only one way to find out.” Said Omega. They opened the door kicking it down and searched the house. They found a single dead zombie on the floor and the sound of crackling coming from the kitchen. Omega told the others to set up camp in the other room as he went to investigate the sound unnoticed by Hayden, Jorge and Jason. When Omega opened the door he was confronted by another live person. A female, she aimed her weapon at him thinking he was a CCA. She quickly realized different. This was no ordinary girl. This was a member of the resistance, a red “C18” on her collar. This was Jenny Lanes. Omega had never seen another living soul besides his team in months. Jenny and Omega agreed to travel together for they had similar goals. They fought off zombies and traveled far and wide. Omega eventually found the similar outlands terrain and landscape leading back to his home city, City 45. Jenny and Omega began to travel in the direction walking by faith not by knowledge. Their members slowly fell to the Outlands. OTA had killed Hayden Firse, the first unexpected death causing great sadness. The second in a town, slaughtered by zombies… Jorge Sanferido and finally in an attempt to sacrifice himself for the freedom of Jenny and Omega, Jason Magson, the most honourable soul of the team. At the town where Jorge fell, they managed to get a working vehicle from the cash station, they needed to find a battery and as night set in they were attacked, it was to late for Jorge as they got the car working, he was killed, he told them to go, to drive as his final words. This car was eventually tracked down by the same OTA scout ships that killed Hayden, they cornered the remaining three at small settlement east of City 45. The OTA fired long and hard on them, they would have died if not for Jason. “Just go Jenny and Omega, I will hold them off.” Jenny and Omega at first refused standing with their friend. Jason then said “They won’t let up, they will keep fighting until we are all dead, you need to leave, you are more valuable then I. My story needs to end here, I have chosen to save the people I honour greatly.” With tears shed and emotion spread, Jenny and Omega said their final farewells to Jason, they headed through the back of the building, combine distracted and set out on foot to City 45. They knew now where it was. They followed the path where the dropships came from. Soon, the urbanization and building count started to rise, they were nearing the city. They found a sewer grate and entered, this is not the end of their journey… For another is sure to come.

So the whole thing behind the backstory above is that we are looking to bring this character that jenny has found icly into our rp in C45. Now, this is not an overpowered player, we wanted to bring him in because he is an important in Jenny's journey to C45. Darion and I have combined our efforts to come up with a backstory which tells you all about him and his life leading up until now. I want to bring Jenny back into the RP seeing as we have map changed.

If this character gets accepted into the RP by the community I only ask that he start with a pistol in the spawn area that I have worked out. This is simply for IC reasons and since a pistol is not really all that over powered I find it pleasable.

The character will go to Darion. It is he, who came up with this idea and he who will play has him.

Darion and I have also been doing an extensive steam chat RP of the outlands events so this has taken us quite a while.

Please leave your vote for if this Char can make it into TC thank you so much.

This post is for Darion.

Nah mang, although this is a well developed story line of this character, nothing has really stood out when he was 06-01 so he'll never be taking about those times because they never happened. But I guess you can just ass pull stuff. I don't like this idea in any subject. A reason why I disagree with this is that we have enough rogues already. And another reason is that while people are working there ass off for a few months from 06-01 you just made a summary that already took you a few hours. If you want this to happen make darion get a cp, make her rank you to 03, make her kill her best friend, then go rogue because your stupid ass team mates weren't paying attention.
No

Well thank you for leaving your opinion but I have a few things to say about that. When we were developing this character, we knew that "ass pulling" would be a main issue. We developed his backstory avoiding badass ass pull features in him so that people would see him as a fair character. He will still have to be developed so I find it fair. Darion would not ass pull features from his CCA days unrealisticly judgeing by his back story. Darion will just have to tell things as he sees fit. He is not going to say that he battled the entire antlion army. As you see, city 45 was very laid back. We were all in city 18 at this time and the rebel activity from city 45 was gone. It clearly states he never liked how the CCA did things like torture, he was truly humane making him take way longer to rank up. He is no ass pull of a character. He is a 01 with 01 training yet he is not truly a 01 at heart. This is also the reason why he ended up leaving. When he went to D6 to look for the lambda, there was nobody. He was on his own for a while. All this time being a rogue and he hardly compares to the average rogue if you think about it. We didn't want anything to stand out in his CCA life because we wanted to have to RP it through story. This is a backstory and it just adds to how he will need to be developed in game.

Once again we do not want this character to be ass pull. He will need to be developed like everybody else. He is more of a regular rebel than a rogue at this point and would be crushed by the existing ones. Think of it as when you rank up in CCA to over 03, if your character is pk'd you dont have to revert to 06. As I also said, we have steam chat RP'd the happenings in the outlands in detail. You would see that he is no ass pull of a character.

I'm kind of on the border here.
I like the whole survival bit but like...
Stinger did shit for his high ranked rogue. He built a relation with the rebels, and rose. He had to hide for awhile, risking everything. And eventually was forced by no choice of his own. The reason this 01 rogues is annoying the living nigger out of me.
Really? Your going to risk your life because you aren't being promoted?
:l
An 01 would would know all the tactics and methods of the CCA and how they find these "Rogues." And if the C45 sector was anything like mine, he would know once you break a sectors trust, you better f*cking run and pray...
Just look at other rogues in the past.

Stinger- Forced.
Phantom- Two friends were gunned down right in front of her for throwing trash.
Sword- Was raped by a high command or some shit.
X-ray- A bruce lee jacki chan fist fight with phantom.

This guy- OH I WASNT PROMOTED GRRR.

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Other than that the outlands part is okay...it just...annoys me.
People usually work hard for rogues. y'know?
What does this guy contribute.

Neutral, not voting yet.

Just so I can confirm. I did say they could make this poll. It is currently the choice of the community at this point whether or not this becomes reality.

Well I was thinking of creating a unit to rogue, still need to think of how he is going to do it and at what rank.

Neutral

Nope, rouges don't make sense at all in hl2 rp for a long list of reasons. Always been against the idea because all it does is cause huge amounts of meta tension among CCA whenever one decides to wander into the city.

Edit: And the way you went rouge isn't feasible. A bio signal isn't a device. It's the signal your DNA gives off that combine technology can read. Everyone has a bio signal, just not all are registered

Chris10023 wrote:Well I was thinking of creating a unit to rogue, still need to think of how he is going to do it and at what rank.

Neutral

You don't make a cca unit just for going rogue...
this post made me throw up in my eye sockets.
maybe thats cat hair.
idfk.

but no. you don't plan on going rogue.

The reason he rouged was because he began to learn the truth about the combine. He hated the way they would beat citizens and things like that. He didn't just go rogue because of not getting promoted. This is what showed him that he hasn't agreed with the CCA as he would rank up. His mind stayed in the same place. Since being knocked out in during the seven hour war, he didn't really get a proper idea of what was happening and why. He began to learn the truth behind it all in the CCA. Thats why he left them. He is not the average rogue. He is not really stong or badass. More of just a rebel that joined the wrong faction. He would ask around to the CCA and they would tell him lies but he believed it at first. I made this clear by saying that there was nobody in the slums to take him in. He just left completely because he knew the CCA would go looking. And then he sound that small group of rebels. That is literally all he has learned of the lambda. Sam Carson didn't get to show him what true lambda was like. When he found Jenny, he knew she was the real deal as soon as he heard she was from city 18. I know trying to get a char put into the game is hard to vote on but he is pretty much a fresh player. He has a lot to learn and he wants to know the truth. This guy wants to contribute to the lambda he wishes to learn more and how resist the combine because he started to see through what they poisoned his mind with. The not getting promoted was just a key to his door type thing. I know everybody has worked hard for rogue and I respect that, that is why we have made him the way he is. I assure you this is no ass pull character.

Oh and thanks for all your guys comments.

OH, and this is a picture of when he found Jen. He is important to her story: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993735737/screenshots/

HollerHavoc wrote:The reason he rouged was because he began to learn the truth about the combine. He hated the way they would beat citizens and things like that. He didn't just go rogue because of not getting promoted. This is what showed him that he hasn't agreed with the CCA as he would rank up. His mind stayed in the same place. Since being knocked out in during the seven hour war, he didn't really get a proper idea of what was happening and why. He began to learn the truth behind it all in the CCA. Thats why he left them. He is not the average rogue. He is not really stong or badass. More of just a rebel that joined the wrong faction. He would ask around to the CCA and they would tell him lies but he believed it at first. I made this clear by saying that there was nobody in the slums to take him in. He just left completely because he knew the CCA would go looking. And then he sound that small group of rebels. That is literally all he has learned of the lambda. Sam Carson didn't get to show him what true lambda was like. When he found Jenny, he knew she was the real deal as soon as he heard she was from city 18. I know trying to get a char put into the game is hard to vote on but he is pretty much a fresh player. He has a lot to learn and he wants to know the truth. This guy wants to contribute to the lambda he wishes to learn more and how resist the combine because he started to see through what they poisoned his mind with. The not getting promoted was just a key to his door type thing. I know everybody has worked hard for rogue and I respect that, that is why we have made him the way he is. I assure you this is no ass pull character.

Oh and thanks for all your guys comments.

OH, and this is a picture of when he found Jen. He is important to her story: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993735737/screenshots/

Well yeah thats the typical reason I've seen from others...but...
How many amps does it take to get to 01.
Detains.
Beatings.

He's rolled along with his fair share of violence.
Now all of a sudden....no?
What gusta?

Sorry for seeming annoying but Im touchy about rogues.
I spent like 8 months of RP with six of them.
SOme were just...
no.

I'm going to have to say
NO
because it's one thing to set up this kind of thread for a loyalist or a rebel char or something, but it takes a lot of time and effort for most rogue chars to get where they are. And some major event usually happens to shift them into being rogue. I feel like this guy's reason is an over time "oh, I don't like this." Honestly, fellow units would probably pick up on that, and he'd be sent to Cognitive Adjustment or something to handle it. For those reasons, I'm going to have to say no on this one.

He amped people but in the most humane way he could. Like I said he had a structered way of ranking up only amping truly evil people. He was obviously forced to amp people he didn't want to otherwise he wouldn't be like he is now.

He just didn't know what else to do. He couldn't leave them though he had contemplated doing it at times because of what he saw. He had never seen the lambda before. Sweeps only occurred when people were seen going into the d6. And I think if a city didn't have the lambda to worry about, then the quota's wouldn't depend so heavily on d6 raids. When he finally had enough, he left... he had seen to much, couldn't take it anymore. He didn't stray from humanity one bit.

HollerHavoc wrote:The reason he rouged was because he began to learn the truth about the combine. He hated the way they would beat citizens and things like that. He didn't just go rogue because of not getting promoted. This is what showed him that he hasn't agreed with the CCA as he would rank up. His mind stayed in the same place. Since being knocked out in during the seven hour war, he didn't really get a proper idea of what was happening and why. He began to learn the truth behind it all in the CCA. Thats why he left them. He is not the average rogue. He is not really stong or badass. More of just a rebel that joined the wrong faction. He would ask around to the CCA and they would tell him lies but he believed it at first. I made this clear by saying that there was nobody in the slums to take him in. He just left completely because he knew the CCA would go looking. And then he sound that small group of rebels. That is literally all he has learned of the lambda. Sam Carson didn't get to show him what true lambda was like. When he found Jenny, he knew she was the real deal as soon as he heard she was from city 18. I know trying to get a char put into the game is hard to vote on but he is pretty much a fresh player. He has a lot to learn and he wants to know the truth. This guy wants to contribute to the lambda he wishes to learn more and how resist the combine because he started to see through what they poisoned his mind with. The not getting promoted was just a key to his door type thing. I know everybody has worked hard for rogue and I respect that, that is why we have made him the way he is. I assure you this is no ass pull character.

Oh and thanks for all your guys comments.

OH, and this is a picture of when he found Jen. He is important to her story: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993735737/screenshots/

Nope, your brainwashed, by 01 its pretty much the point of no return. Rouges don't happen anymore for many ooc and ic reasons. And your character lacks all the requirements to even be considered to go rouge.

Well what if his rank of when he rogued is bumped down a bit....? I think maybe his rank could be bumped down for it to make more sense if that is the issue. The EpU thing would not have happend. And therefore making his case a bit more plausible. Instead, he was forced to kill a friend he had made back in his loyalist days by the name of Jamie Mitchel, a level 1 loyalist who had took him in and showed him around in his blindness about the war. Jamie was framed for assisted contraband transfer and distribution and Xavier was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He didn't believe his friend would do such a thing and talked with him about it as much as he could but the DvL showed up and forced him to amputate him shortly after he was detained. and therefore drawing the line, unlocking his path.

Plausible or not? I am willing to make the small changes necessary to make this character work because I and Darion have spent to much time on this backstory and character to give up on him.

UnitBravo342 wrote:I'm going to have to say
NO
because it's one thing to set up this kind of thread for a loyalist or a rebel char or something, but it takes a lot of time and effort for most rogue chars to get where they are. And some major event usually happens to shift them into being rogue. I feel like this guy's reason is an over time "oh, I don't like this." Honestly, fellow units would probably pick up on that, and he'd be sent to Cognitive Adjustment or something to handle it. For those reasons, I'm going to have to say no on this one.

Everyone has the ability to shadow feelings and some can really do it well. But I have revised the rank and such so that it is more reasonable.

Ok so since the way he went rogue mostly seems to be the problem I am revising this a bit hopefully this will change your opinions on the topic.

Ok, so I understand many of you were very neutral on the topic and it all seemed to revolve around the CCA and how he want rogue part of his story so I have made some heavy revisions. I hope this is more reasonable.

Saw rouge...

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NOPE.AVI

Like I've said before, I don't agree with this character because he was want made in TC he was made in steam chat. Do to that fact he has had no serious injuries, like robotic arm that really changed his life, and if he was 01, and there were no rebels in the area, how did he become an 02 because you have to kill anti citizen then detain them. It just doesn't fit together.
Nope.

Moose_hater wrote:Like I've said before, I don't agree with this character because he was want made in TC he was made in steam chat. Do to that fact he has had no serious injuries, like robotic arm that really changed his life, and if he was 01, and there were no rebels in the area, how did he become an 02 because you have to kill anti citizen then detain them. It just doesn't fit together.
Nope.

Revised but I see that this is a lost cause and a waste of my time now.

I see that I have truly wasted my time on a 3500 word backstory. The purpose of this character being added is because he was found icly by jenny in the outlands. Atleast I did not shit this character out randomly like he randomly entered the world of TC. Darion and I actually legit created this guy in steam char RP. We developed him and we grew on him and wanted him to become a reality, we spoke to diablo and he said it was fine if we do exactly what I have done here. But for some reason the community hates rogues. I did everything I could to anti-ass pull this char, We worked hard on his backstory and the steam char RP. Have your opinions on this topic... We never wanted this char to gain an advantage or to ass pull him (hence why we rp'd in steam) We simply wanted him in because he was part of Jenny's journey in the outlands and if jenny didn't find him, her life would have been much harder out there. This character is just seen as an asspull for some reason.

Thanks all for leaving opinions...

You guys probably don't know who I am, yeah, I've never played here in about half a year roughly.
This is probably more than a hundred years late, but I just have to say.
Holler, you didn't waste any time on making a back round story of this and putting a poll on it to vouch Omega in.
I respect that you made such an essay of, what this person would be. It's very interesting, actually.
But there's a problem. A rogue unit; doesn't make any sense. They'd be tracked down, amputated, before they could even come up with the thought of being non-compliant.
Anyways, rogues do... cause problems ICLY, and OOCly AND community wise. I've ran a HL2RP server myself--- and I have to say, giving one of my most responsible staff members the ability to make a rogue: biggest mistake I made.
As responsible one can be, rogues can just cause trouble. If they don't confine themselves to the smallest isolated room in the world, shit just hits the fan.
The IC name will spread around like a plague and everyone will just talk about it. You'll be found too soon, and cause more than JUST your character to be PK'd. It's just a headache.

Way to late

I said the same thing a long time ago, but no. Peeps need their rouges, or our shit hits the fan.

I dislike how people keep saying rouges are uncanon... If that is true, then how is Barney a main character in HL2 and hasn't died yet?

He was a relatively low level infiltrator, not a rogue.