The raid rant/complaintish thing

Well around 10:15 after a loong gunfight with rebels and CCA we start wrapping things up. Sweep is called to a end and waiver stops. I start handing out trophies and weapons that we captured then literally seconds as im getting off I guess another large wave is called in. OTA are teleported to the spot and the CCA meta game the shit out of our position without even looking. When I get off saying everyones getting PK'd and what not. I have a few things that I would like clarified and heard.

1. The whole part when 6-7 CCA and OTA randomly appear at out doorstep. Not sure if someone used observer to get a idea where we are because I did see a OWS unit flying around looking at us.

2. Before the first wave Dracul Zev was playing on his Kelly character then instantly switches to a CCA unit to assist in the raid and then also takes part in the second as a OTA.

3. Being that my character is the leader and one of the most heavily armed characters (AR2. Several grenades and shotgun. Along with a locked up RPG in the backroom) and as soon as I say i'm leaving I guess that gave the combine a idea that they had a winning chance now.


shouldnt even be up right now typing this.. peace.

Death toll was massive.
for rebels.

Marko, Jenny, Nick, and rose all killed or captured than killed in one go.
CCA deaths.
none.

They also ignored me with a shotgun firing at their backs.
Being a tac military force, that would scare me, knowing your trying enemy is behind you. Instead theyy proceded to aresst rose, and overkill the backroom with weapons and grenades.

What.

This is so poopy.

I mean what the hell, I was planning on leaving cause I felt it was the perfect wrap up point and then this happens? How did like 8 CCA just magically appear out of no where? We weren't even inside the bar for like 2 minutes and then they show up.

They call off the waiver, They clearly were gone, then blow as all up? Doesn't really make sense to me but okay. I say that this should be voided or something cause everybody was about to wrap up anyway, I just didn't want to be accused of leaving to not be PK'd or something. Man, I was just about to go too.

And nobody was listening to /roll's really but whatever.

I'm not the kind to be like "oh god plz don't pk me oh god no." However, I will have to basically agree with everything Mahunik and Noobstrike said. You came in for your attack, we fought it out, you pulled out. Other than some S2King that was fine. Then suddenly down comes the headcrab canisters and when Erica left it was almost like someone rang the dinner bell.

Oh, speaking of the S2K, Helix DvL headshotting me in the first fight is basically the reason my char died. He had an AR2, shotgun, and 9mm. Ridiculous amounts of ammo? No. But certainly more than I was left with after the fact. Course, all the S2Ked units went to the armory and loaded up before coming back, then loaded even more just before the second hit.

Wow, I really think the 2nd attack should be voided, it sounds like the CCA Meta'd hard, especially after Mahunik left, how would they know you were in the bar? That entire 2nd engagement and resulting PK's should be voided. I saw a bit of it in observer (as well as that big engagement by the warehouse) but didn't question how they got there as I didn't see it start.

I wasn't there but this sounds like bullshit, CCA you dun goofed. I vote to void.

Do we void the whole meta'd barfight ? imo was total bullshit but rose got stalkerfied, so im good with it either way

The matter is being discussed

I never got the full story but hearing that not a single combine was killed just kinda pisses me off. Here we have people who spend hours and months of RP developing characters for the resistance simply just killed off with almost no troubles. BS

I wasn't here for this moment. However, after hearing this, I have to say that I am disapointed in some of these player's actions.

1) Seriously, how do you know where their base is?
2) You PK'd ALL of them after what was obviously failRP?
3) Dracul/Chris/Kat's little brother. You being an operator, I am disapointed. For what was so obviously failRP, you took part in it without a word. At this point I question your abilities after your constant attacking of other players, stating that you take illegal drugs, kicking players that do not deserve to be kicked or banned, such as Ben Franklin who, in fact, barely if at all had a fail desc which could have been easily rectified. And that you have POSSIBLY taken Kat's characters...
4) Don't you think this probably pisses off a lot of people? Sure, it is dangerous to be an AC. But dangerous situations still involve legitimate RP. And without legitimate RP, you are fucked in the head man.
5) Mahunik, one of the most solid players/workers here, is making a complaint. MUNKY IS MAKING A COMPLAINT! If he is making a complaint, it is obviously really bad because he rarely if ever complains and does his job well.

Im killing off my Administrator or Apex very soon for someone else to take. Just an FYI for when it happens.

But, the raid is yours to discuss. What you think should have happened, who you think should have lived or died, anything. Discuss it, please.

The info I can give you on the CCA perspective is this:
I called in a judgement waiver to search the citizens. A miscount was obviously detected. So I grabbed myself, the DvL, and an 05 I believe. We went in and got butt rammed by the rebels. Took me by surprise big time. Thankfully, we all shot to miss, and anyone who died by my hands during that raid was TP'ed back. I never wanted to kill someone during that raid, infact I want to take POW's if anything to get more info. So I believe Rose was shot by me, TP'ed back, and Erica was blown up by a grenade meant to land by her, not on her (Only grenade I threw BTW). So Erica is still alive. The CCA pulled out after the 05 was taken down by some shrapnel from a grenade, and were being pinned by heavy gunfire. So we retreated.

As soon as we got back to Nexus, I called in an OTA. (Everything was RP'ed). The OTA and I got ready to gear up, because originally my plan was to go in just me and him and we were gonna scope it out and take someone captive. Although, my plans were never revealed because a few other units flagged up. So I asked for them to tag a long. We did, after faking the Judgement waivers end, we snuck back in. OTA went through Nexus entrance to D6, the rest of the enlisted and I went through the D6 checkpoint.
Gun shots.
OTa called in for back up at the bar, so we ran to it. The rebels pinned us at the door after we breached, slowly we moved in. Before I knew it, the rebels were locking themselfs in that small room. I checked the bathroom and spent the majority of the fight tagging and bagging, Rose. When I escort her out to face the wall, I am blown up by a grenade. Assumed accidental because lots of people shouted "WTF" over OOC chat, I went back and continued holding Rose. I told the 05 to watch her as the OTA opened the door, wave after wave of Rebels came flocking to the doorway, I unloaded, but I made sure to miss A FUCK LOAD. I only shot 1 or 2 people, and that second person to a bullet to the head. Who ever that was that was killed by me, we can talk it through if you want.

After that, about 2 or so other rebels shot me from behind. My health was near full, and I am heavily auged. so I didn't take a lot of damage. The OTA pursued those two for a moment, then came back and took Rose to detainment. I cleaned up the rebels bodies a tad, then returned to detainment.

So that's what happened to me, any other stories?

PS: Greek, I have gotten complaints from ALL OF YOU. And I have gotten complaints ABOUT ALL OF YOU.
So don't think people are special because they rarely complain. Hehehe, kinda funny actually.

PSS: The enlisted and I never knew anything. We were called in as backup for the OTA who was firing down at the bar from the balcony up above. A few shots came threw the door, so we went in after them. I had NO IDEA that their were so many. IE: why I stayed pinned until they moved back into that room.

I understand. But still. Munky? COMPLAINING?

1. The whole part when 6-7 CCA and OTA randomly appear at out doorstep. Not sure if someone used observer to get a idea where we are because I did see a OWS unit flying around looking at us.

2. Before the first wave Dracul Zev was playing on his Kelly character then instantly switches to a CCA unit to assist in the raid and then also takes part in the second as a OTA.

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Ok, let me explain this, i never went into observer, never metagamed, at all. Mahunik you saying you saw me in observer, sorry to say is massive bull crap. And second i was on my way above the souvenir shop, and saw the bar door opended, so i radioed into Apex. And i quote "Possible Civilans in the Underground bar." He ssaid "Copy." and we advanced in. I never meta gamed one bit so please dont go barking on me for a demotion. And Greek i wil ask this once of you and only once, To not bring my sister's quote "Characters." up they are mostly mine she even knows this go ahead Text her and ask her you have her number.

Well I suppose if this isn't voided Erica would have died aswell or atleast helped hold them off since I was in the bar when I left. Btw I won't beable to be on as much for the next few weeks since I am hosting a German exchange student, then shortly after in February I am going to Germany for 2 weeks.

We've already voided the deaths anyway's so quit arguing plz, also what do you mean "Seeing me in observer mode is total BS" Dracul? we can still see a big colored light anyways. or did you mean something else?

I'm saying, you did not see me in observer cause i was never in it. During the raid i went into observer once and that was at the end so i could go take a piss.